Multiplying Words Without Knowledge, or Stupidity in the Bible

(Job 35:1) Elihu spoke moreover, and said, (2) "Do you think this is right, that you said, 'My righteousness is more than God's'? (3) For you said, 'What advantage will it be to You? What profit shall I have, if I be cleansed from my sin?'

Job never said his righteousness was more than God's, but Elihu further qualifies his interpretation of Job's meaning by adding what Job indeed said. I'm not sure that Job really said those things, either, but it may have seemed he insinuated them when he said God destroys the perfect and the wicked. This passage reminds me of a commercial I heard on Christian radio one time, and the moral of it really stuck with me. When we fall into the trap of mind-reading and start acting on what we think the person means, and not on what they really meant but may not have expressed well, then we are acting on a lie. I don't believe for a moment that Job believed he was more righteous than God. He was just lamenting the fact that he tried to do good, but look where it got him.

Actually, when you look at what Elihu said Job had said, there is really nothing wrong with "What advantage will it be to You?" There is no advantage to God when we are righteous. God doesn't NEED our righteousness. He can act with or without it. It is always about OUR good.

"What profit shall I have, if I be cleansed from my sin?" Again, taken literally the way Elihu expressed it, it's merely a pondering question. Obviously, from the benefit of knowing the end of the story, we know God is still working this to Job's benefit. He may not can see it at this point, but the vast bigger-picture ways of God are not finished yet. Part of following our Lord is to do His will. We want to do His will because we know it is far better than what our puny human minds can contemplate. In this case, Job was indeed blessed more abundantly by God, and the story of Job has been an example of faith for hundreds of years to countless souls. And if you want to lament the death of his children, if they were true followers, then they will be with their Lord, which is a far better place than still living on earth. Believers never have to fear dying, and although we may grieve selfishly because we miss them, because we love them we would never want them to be removed from that better place. If Job's children were not believers, then they were never going to be believers; you can have faith in that. The all-seeing God knows His people!

(4) "I will answer you, and your companions with you."

Elihu states he will now answer Job and his friends, and one can assume he means to better explain Job's situation. Whether he plans to truly answer Job's questions or plans to answer what he, in error, thinks Job thinks, remains to be seen at this point.

(5) "Look to the heavens and see; and behold the clouds which are higher than you. (6) If you sin, what do you (accomplish) against Him? Or, if your transgressions are multiplied, what do you do to Him? (7) If you are righteous, what do you give Him? Or what does He receive from your hand?"

So far, so good. Elihu points out that God's ways are higher than our ways, and that indeed, God is not hurt nor does He profit from anything man does.

(8) "Your wickedness may hurt a man as you are, and your righteousness may profit the son of man."

In this case the "son of man" seems to mean "generations of men". Job's (or any man's) actions do not hurt or profit God, but they may hurt or profit mortal men, and even generations to come. We sometimes forget this when we want to blame God for what seems to us senseless acts that we know He alone could have prevented. When my precious Daddy died way too young of a painful cancer 23 years ago, I was angry at God for months, probably even a couple of years or more. Then one day I realized that man had created cancer, not God. The things we do to our environment, the additives in our food, the additives we put on our skin and use every day, are full of carcinogens. Once again, men become fools thinking they are so wise making things better and better with chemicals! We have brought disease to ourselves. I am sure it is even more painful to see a young child suffer and die with cancer, or a young mother who dies and leaves small children. God surely could have prevented or reversed that! Yes, He could have, and in some cases He does perform miraculous healing. But why does He choose to heal some and not others? Well, only the sovereign Lord knows that, but He is always about the greater good, His ways being higher than our ways. Often people in the very worst of circumstances, only then, turn to the Lord. I believe often He may allow these things to happen in order to bring His people back to Him. Recall Jesus's words in Matthew 18:8-9 that say it's better to enter heaven maimed or blinded in one eye than to be whole and cast into hell. Whatever it takes to save us!! What a merciful God we have! The sweet children who suffer and die go to be with Him, so they are much happier, and through grief and despair, perhaps their parents are able to join them. It is hard for us to understand how God could sacrifice an innocent little child like that, but then again, He sacrificed His own son to save us sinners. He loves us ALL!

Another thought along the same lines on why some people are healed and others are not: again God knows the bigger picture. He knows what will happen if one is saved, and what will happen if one is not. What is the greater good? What will save His lost sheep? Just like the hypocritical leader and nation described in the last post, if people are continually blessed when they are doing wrong, they may be ensnared into believing they are doing right. Tragedy often brings us closer to God. And we must remember the tragedy was not caused by God, but He does, in fact, allow it.

(9) "Because of the multitude of oppressions they cry out; they cry out because of the arm of the mighty."

We are back to the people Job may hurt with his wickedness from verse 8.

(10) "But no one says, 'Where is God my Maker, who gives songs in the night, (11) Who teaches us more than the beasts of the earth, and makes us wiser than the birds of heaven?'"

Apparently Elihu is making a point that the oppressed do not reach out to God when they suffer. "In the night" is a picture of "in the midst of trouble". God has given men wisdom to know Him, but they forget Him and don't think to call on Him in their times of trouble.

(12) "There they cry, but none gives answer, because of the pride of evil men."

The oppressed cry, but there is no one to answer them because they don't cry out to the right One. Whether they are crying ABOUT the pride of evil men that has caused the trouble, or because their own pride keeps them from calling on God, either way, they do not look to their Creator.

(13) "Surely God will not hear vanity, neither will the Almighty regard it."

God will not hear empty hollow words or lies.

(14) "Although you say you will not see Him, yet judgment is before Him; therefore trust in Him."

Elihu seems to be turning his point about how the oppressed do not call on God to Job. Paraphrased, "Just because you don't look to Him, He and His righteous judgment are there; therefore you should trust in Him."

(15) "But now, because it is not so, He has visited in His anger; yet he doesn't know it in great extremity: (16) Therefore does Job open his mouth in vain; he multiplies words without knowledge."

It looks like Elihu believes that because Job did not turn to God, God has visited him in anger, although we have to believe that an apparent righteous and Spirit-led man as Elihu must have meant chastisement rather than vengeful anger. Otherwise, I would have to say Elihu has really lost it by this point, and should have stopped talking in the last chapter! I had to chuckle when I looked at the original meaning of the word that was translated as "extremity". It means "stupidity"! Elihu says Job was so stupid he didn't even know why God had visited him in anger. Well, now I know Elihu has gone too far. He may have started talking feeling led by the Holy Spirit, but I am sure he let his own ego take over at some point. Elihu concludes this chapter by saying that Job has been speaking senseless and meaningless words in his complaints against God, and that he speaks without any real knowledge. And we, knowing the rest of the story, could say that last part about Elihu, as well!

"Multiplying words without knowledge"...I could not help but get an image of the so-called intelligent of our day, who "professing themselves to be wise, they became fools". Paul tells us in Romans 1:22 how people reject God, changing "the truth of God into a lie" and become fools, wise in their own eyes.

A Lesson in Reverence and Humility Before God

Continuing a Bible study of Job, Job speaks after his friend insinuates that he is not a totally righteous man and may have brought judgment on himself.

(Job 9:1) Then Job answered and said, (2) "Truly I know it is so, but how should man be just with God?"

Job knows that what had been said before is true, probably the basic premise that God does not pervert justice. But if that is the true basis for God's judgment on him regarding all the calamities that have befallen him, how could he, as mortal sinful man, ever be considered just with Almighty God?

(3) "If he contends with Him, he could not answer Him one time out of a thousand. (4) God is wise in heart and mighty in strength. Who has hardened himself against Him and prospered?"

Job knows that he could not win a battle of judgment and justice with Almighty God, and by saying this, I believe he is telling his friends that that was not his intention in what he had said.

(5) "Who removes the mountains, and they do not know, when He overturns them in His anger; (6) Which shakes the earth out of its place, and its pillars tremble;"

With these words, Job is demonstrating how utterly vain it would be for him, mere mortal man, to contend with God who moves mountains and causes earthquakes.

(7) "Who commands the sun, and it does not rise; and who seals off the stars; (8) Who alone spreads out the heavens, and treads on the waves of the sea; (9) Who made Arcturus, Orion, and the Pleiades, and the chambers of the south;"

Job continues with a description of all the great and powerful things that God does to prove that he knows he could never pretend to contend with God. Arcturus is the constellation of the Great Bear.

(10) "Who does great things beyond explanation, yes, and wonders without number. (11) Lo, He goes by me, and I do not see Him; He moves past, but I do not perceive Him; (12) If He takes away, who can hinder Him? Who can say to Him, 'What are You doing?' (13) God will not withdraw His anger, the helpers of the proud lie prostrate under Him. (14) How much less can I answer Him, and choose my words to reason with Him?"

The old commentaries vary slightly on what was meant by the helpers of the proud. They may have been as mighty as "they who bear up the world" and even they bow down. Or perhaps helpers are all the things on which proud men rely, as wealth, health, rank, and talent. In any event, if even those men lie under Him, how would someone as feeble as Job now was ever presume to contend with God?

(15) "Though I were righteous, I would not answer Him; but I would make supplication to my Judge."

Even if Job were truly of the utmost righteousness, he would never presume to argue his case against God, but he would approach Him as a sinner comes before the righteous Judge, and prayerfully ask for His mercy. What a beautiful picture this is of how we should approach God in times of trouble. Not with arrogance and shaking our fists. We sometimes want to feel we have been wronged by God, but Job realized that was not possible. God is the supreme righteous Judge and His ways are so far above our ways that we cannot always understand that they are better. In this sinful fallen world, with sinful people often choosing to follow the prince of this world, bad things are bound to happen to us. Whether God acts or whether He allows others to act, He WILL work all things together for good, if we would just seek to follow Him. If we could honestly have complete faith in the infallible righteous judgment of our Lord, we could truly live without fear in any situation.

But Job teaches us there is more than just living without fear because we have faith. This is where I think present-day "Word of Faith" followers miss the mark. Well, I think they miss the mark in several ways; I think their faith is placed on the wrong things. They begin to have faith in their faith. If only THEY had enough faith, they would get what they ask for. They get so focused on the THING they have faith in getting, even if it is a noble thing, such as the health of a loved one, that they forget THE ONE who should be the object of their faith and focus. If we have faith in HIM, we don't have to worry about all the THINGS, because we have faith He will take care of those things. He already said He would take care of our needs! He may not take care of all our wants, and it really makes me uncomfortable when some people presume to know what God WANTS! The only thing I can say for certain that He wants, is that all men be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth! And because His ways are higher than our ways, is it not possible that He might allow sickness and/or death of a loved one, if it might bring that person or those witnessing it to salvation? What is the ONE thing God wants? That we are saved! Not that we should all live perfect healthy prosperous lives. Yes, there are scriptures that say He wants us to prosper, but what does that mean to the Almighty Savior God of the universe? Once again, He sees things that we cannot see and knows things we cannot know, so if we just place our faith in Him, rather than the object of our desire, we don't have to worry about how He will work it out; we can just know with certainty that He will work it for good.

I often think of a story in John when people in the faith movement try to tell me they KNOW that God wants this or that healing. Remember the man blind from birth? The disciples wanted to know who had sinned that he should be born blind, him or his parents. Jesus answered neither, but that the works of God be revealed in him. I can't help but picture some word-of-faither approaching this man's parents when he was a baby and telling them that he KNOWS the will of God is that their baby should see and not be blind...and that would be wrong. It was NOT the will of God that that baby or later that young child should see, but that God be manifest in him when Jesus performed the miracle of restoring his sight when he was grown. How many people may have been saved by witnessing that miracle at that time?! Yet "faithers" presume to know the will of God?

Job did not presume anything with regard to Almighty God. He would never venture to argue a case of his innocence before Him, but he WOULD make a plea to Him, the righteous Judge. This is where we can all learn a good lesson from Job. Job had tremendous reverence and awe for his God; he did not question HIM, but he knew he could make supplication to Him. There is a difference!

Very recently something has been laid upon my heart, before I came to this part of my study. I have learned to walk in faith in many things. We have been through so many personal trials and have seen God carry us through, making a way when we didn't see one, that it has become easy to trust Him. But I don't want to ever take Him for granted. I want to have a thankful reverential heart in awe of His wonders and mercy. Job had that.

(16) "If I had called and He had answered me, I would not believe that He had hearkened to my voice."

I believe this is referring back to verse 14 and the first part of 15, when Job said he would not presume to contend with God. The original word translated as "called" here is "qara" and its meaning rather paints a picture of one accosting another in an aggressive manner. So I don't believe Job is referring to his supplication here.

(17) "For He breaks me with a tempest, and multiplies my wounds without cause. (18) He will not allow me to catch my breath, but fills me with bitterness. (19) If I speak of strength, lo, He is strong; and if of judgment, who will appoint my day in court? (20) If I justify myself, my own mouth will condemn me; if I say I am perfect, it will also prove me perverse. (21) If I were perfect, I would still not know my soul; I would despise my life. (22) It is all one thing; therefore I say, 'He destroys the pious and the wicked.' (23) If the scourge slays suddenly, He will laugh at the trial of the innocent. (24) The earth is given into the hand of the wicked; He covers the faces of its judges; if it is not He, where and who is it?"

All these things are to say that Job cannot contend with God and it would be useless to try. God is mightier than man in anything he may attempt to do to justify himself.

(25) "Now my days are swifter than a runner; they flee away, they see no good. (26) They pass away as the swift ships, as the eagle hastens to the prey. (27) If I say, 'I will forget my complaint; I will leave off my heaviness, and comfort myself', (28) I am afraid of all my sorrows; I know that You will not hold me innocent."

I think the idea here is even if Job were to try to be cheerful and "forget his troubles", he knew God could bring the sorrows back because as the righteous Judge, He would not just make them disappear if Job were guilty. Once again, it's just an illustration of how there is nothing Job can do against an Almighty God.

(29) "If I am wicked, why then do I labor in vain? (30) If I wash myself with snow water, and make my hands ever so clean, (31) Yet You will plunge me into the pit, and my own clothes will abhor me. (32) For He is not a man, as I am, that I should answer Him and that we should come together in judgment. (33) Nor is there any mediator between us, who may lay his hand on us both. (34) Let Him take His rod away from me, and do not let His fear terrify me; (35) Then I would speak and not fear Him, but it is not so with me."

There is absolutely nothing that Job can do to defend himself against Almighty God. If He were to take away this perfection in righteous almighty judgment, this awesome power, His very God-ness, maybe then Job could speak with him, presumably as more of an equal, but it is not so.